lizzie borden macdonald. while there are gnashing, let's get them clashing. front and center, unions joking in dying fast. knocking down the latest attempt to smack down the michigan right to work offers to workers. another judge in indiana. the eu said this. to sort of elevating. but to you first. >> so much show that the afl-cio has said the rear in a crisis. also move to a unionized restaurants. nonprofits. if he feels he has to reach out to unionized organizations like the sierra club and the naacp, we are in a new world for unions neil: that would be like a double jeopardy. what to you think? >> having a death battle here. of course. neil: a big element of surprise. >> i'm happy to fight. you know that. but yes, they are in trouble. you'll wake up as a country and find out the workers don't have the right to organize in a more. the still wears off. is no mistaking which direction were going. by the way some of this needed to happen. the unions did all sorts of nasty things and not too powerful. it's clear to me that the pendulum swing too far. neil: the